From:
Ella Taylor-Smith
Date:
Nov 21 12:27 UTC
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Hi,
Yesterday's article in the Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/nov/20/nominet-domain-name-registry
wasn't the first I've read recently about Nominet's internal wriggling and
relationship with government and it's hard to see if these are much more than
disgruntled gossip.
However, the article makes an interesting assumption - that it is better that
Nominet stays independent of government.
Could someone more au fait with this than me explain why this is?
For example, I can't see how people and non-commercial organisations have an
input here, though it aims to represent us on international bodies (where other
countries have democratically* accountable representation).
Perhaps my question is "how do we influence Nominet?"
-Ella
*a bit subjective of course
Ella Taylor-Smith
International Teledemocracy Centre
Napier University
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From:
Jill Sanders
Date:
Nov 23 12:45 UTC
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My initial reaction is: can you imagine if gov has its dabs on making the
connections to domain names? It would cut off any website it disapproved
of, and only watchdogs (read lapdogs) for scrutiny. It would give gov the
key to censorship by the hidden door. That nominet so far has been
independent, non-partisan and not for profit is essential. Gov is none of
these things!!! I believe it would be the end of the internet as we know it
because no gov - local or national, whichever party, whatever 'democracy' -
can be trusted to be fair, open or equal in its dealings with public media -
especially here. Gov would love this power! I can therefore see it
happening.... At first sight, this strikes me as a sinister move and to be
resisted. What do others think?
Best wishes
Jill
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From: "Taylor-Smith, Ella" <E.Taylor-Smith@napier.ac.uk>
To: "UKIE" <ukie@groups.dowire.org>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:27 PM
Subject: [UKIE-EDem] Nominet
Hi,
Yesterday's article in the Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/nov/20/nominet-domain-name-registry
wasn't the first I've read recently about Nominet's internal wriggling and
relationship with government and it's hard to see if these are much more
than disgruntled gossip.
However, the article makes an interesting assumption - that it is better
that Nominet stays independent of government.
Could someone more au fait with this than me explain why this is?
For example, I can't see how people and non-commercial organisations have an
input here, though it aims to represent us on international bodies (where
other countries have democratically* accountable representation).
Perhaps my question is "how do we influence Nominet?"
-Ella
*a bit subjective of course
Ella Taylor-Smith
International Teledemocracy Centre
Napier University
10 Colinton Road
Edinburgh, EH10 5DT
Telephone: +44 (0) 131 455 2392 Fax: +44 (0) 131 455 2282
Email: <email obscured><mailto:<email obscured>>
http://itc.napier.ac.uk
Napier University is the best modern university in Scotland* and number one
in Scotland for graduate employability**
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(**HESA 2008)
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From:
Mick
Date:
Nov 23 14:09 UTC
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I was on the Nominet list until my illness two years ago and it is a
very complex situation. Trying to have an international thing like the
Internet naming standards run by loads and loads of what are effectively
volunteers is a miracle that it has lasted this far...
I wish them on all the best!
Mick
http://greatemancipator.com
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From: <email obscured> [mailto:ukie@groups.dowire.org] On Behalf
Of Jill Sanders
Sent: 23 November 2008 12:38
To: <email obscured>
Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Nominet
My initial reaction is: can you imagine if gov has its dabs on making
the
connections to domain names? It would cut off any website it
disapproved
of, and only watchdogs (read lapdogs) for scrutiny. It would give gov
the
key to censorship by the hidden door. That nominet so far has been
independent, non-partisan and not for profit is essential. Gov is none
of
these things!!! I believe it would be the end of the internet as we
know it
because no gov - local or national, whichever party, whatever
'democracy' -
can be trusted to be fair, open or equal in its dealings with public
media -
especially here. Gov would love this power! I can therefore see it
happening.... At first sight, this strikes me as a sinister move and to
be
resisted. What do others think?
Best wishes
Jill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Taylor-Smith, Ella" <E.Taylor-Smith@napier.ac.uk>
To: "UKIE" <ukie@groups.dowire.org>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:27 PM
Subject: [UKIE-EDem] Nominet
Hi,
Yesterday's article in the Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/nov/20/nominet-domain-name-reg
istry
wasn't the first I've read recently about Nominet's internal wriggling
and
relationship with government and it's hard to see if these are much more
than disgruntled gossip.
However, the article makes an interesting assumption - that it is better
that Nominet stays independent of government.
Could someone more au fait with this than me explain why this is?
For example, I can't see how people and non-commercial organisations
have an
input here, though it aims to represent us on international bodies
(where
other countries have democratically* accountable representation).
Perhaps my question is "how do we influence Nominet?"
-Ella
*a bit subjective of course
Ella Taylor-Smith
International Teledemocracy Centre
Napier University
10 Colinton Road
Edinburgh, EH10 5DT
Telephone: +44 (0) 131 455 2392 Fax: +44 (0) 131 455 2282
Email: <email obscured><mailto:<email obscured>>
http://itc.napier.ac.uk
Napier University is the best modern university in Scotland* and number
one
in Scotland for graduate employability**
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