From:
Mick
Date:
Sep 15 15:52 UTC
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Is anyone aware of any local authority that is successfully webcasting council
meetings?
Further - if there are ones doing it on a regular basis, have they established
sufficient policies to enforce reasonable behaviour, particularly by the
elected members?
The question has come from a colleague following a proposal by a consultant to
do so as a mechansim to assist the reporting of meeting minutes!
Any interesting examples greatly appreciated!
From:
Jason Kitcat
Date:
Sep 15 16:07 UTC
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On 15 Sep 2008, at 16:52, Mick Phythian wrote:
> Is anyone aware of any local authority that is successfully
> webcasting council meetings?
Quite a few, best example is the London Assembly,
http://www.london.gov.uk/assembly/webcasts.jsp
A local company, Public-i have a large number of local authority
clients listed on their site and are about to start webcasting
meetings at Brighton & Hove City Council, http://www.public-i.info
(This is not an endorsement, I'm sure there are other suppliers)
> Further - if there are ones doing it on a regular basis, have they
> established sufficient policies to enforce reasonable behaviour,
> particularly by the elected members?
There is a members code of conduct anyway enforced by the Standards
Board so not sure there's need for a separate 'webcasting code'.
All the best,
Jason
From:
Keith Young
Date:
Sep 15 16:19 UTC
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I can give you a list of 58 Councils that I am aware of in the UK that are
successfully webcasting council meetings. There is a wide variety types of
meetings webcast and hence linked to this different protocols to assist the
Officer / Chairman / Councillors.
To give some examples - London Borough of Croydon have a protocol (attached)
Bristol City Council have remarkably successful viewership (28,000 ytd 2008)
which is linked to their AskBristol site and promotion.
Devon / Lancashire / East Sussex / Waverley / Mole Valley all have been
webcasting for a number of years.
I can provide some contact details if this would assist
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mick Phythian" <mick@phythian.org.uk>
To: <ukie@groups.dowire.org>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 4:52 PM
Subject: [UKIE-EDem] Recording (Council) meetings
> Is anyone aware of any local authority that is successfully webcasting
> council meetings?
>
>
> Further - if there are ones doing it on a regular basis, have they
> established sufficient policies to enforce reasonable behaviour,
> particularly by the elected members?
>
>
> The question has come from a colleague following a proposal by a
> consultant to do so as a mechansim to assist the reporting of meeting
> minutes!
>
>
> Any interesting examples greatly appreciated!
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Mick
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From:
Andy Lewis
Date:
Sep 15 16:59 UTC
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Hi Mick
Media On Demand <http://www.mediaondemand.net/> (N.B. to whom I am
affiliated) webcasts council meetings for many local councils as well as
other public bodies. They have developed an easy to use software and
hardware combination specifically for councils. It has proven to be very
worthwhile in assisting gathering meeting minutes. This system was developed
with the experience gained in webcasting the UK
Parliament<http://www.parliament.uk/>for around five years - similar
technology, but a scaled down version, now
runs webcasts for council meetings.
Microphones can be turned off should unusual behaviour occur and the cameras
can also be controlled. As far as I am aware, there are not any policies in
place for enforcing behaviour in such meetings. I remember one instance in
Parliament when someone threw water balloons at ministers filled with purple
powder, which was webcast and subsequently archived! Not sure if it made it
into Hansard though...
Please feel free to get in touch with <email obscured> or visit MOD's
website <http://www.mediaondemand.net/> for more information on their
product range or if you require further info.
Best Wishes
Andy Lewis
2008/9/15 Mick Phythian <mick@phythian.org.uk>
> Is anyone aware of any local authority that is successfully webcasting
> council meetings?
>
>
> Further - if there are ones doing it on a regular basis, have they
> established sufficient policies to enforce reasonable behaviour,
> particularly by the elected members?
>
>
> The question has come from a colleague following a proposal by a consultant
> to do so as a mechansim to assist the reporting of meeting minutes!
>
>
> Any interesting examples greatly appreciated!
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Mick
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From:
Keith Young
Date:
Sep 15 17:02 UTC
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Many?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Lewis" <lists@andylewis.net>
To: <ukie@groups.dowire.org>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Recording (Council) meetings
> Hi Mick
>
> Media On Demand <http://www.mediaondemand.net/> (N.B. to whom I am
> affiliated) webcasts council meetings for many local councils as well as
> other public bodies. They have developed an easy to use software and
> hardware combination specifically for councils. It has proven to be very
> worthwhile in assisting gathering meeting minutes. This system was
> developed
> with the experience gained in webcasting the UK
> Parliament<http://www.parliament.uk/>for around five years - similar
> technology, but a scaled down version, now
> runs webcasts for council meetings.
>
> Microphones can be turned off should unusual behaviour occur and the
> cameras
> can also be controlled. As far as I am aware, there are not any policies
> in
> place for enforcing behaviour in such meetings. I remember one instance in
> Parliament when someone threw water balloons at ministers filled with
> purple
> powder, which was webcast and subsequently archived! Not sure if it made
> it
> into Hansard though...
>
> Please feel free to get in touch with <email obscured> or visit
> MOD's
> website <http://www.mediaondemand.net/> for more information on their
> product range or if you require further info.
>
> Best Wishes
>
> Andy Lewis
>
>
>
> 2008/9/15 Mick Phythian <mick@phythian.org.uk>
>
>> Is anyone aware of any local authority that is successfully webcasting
>> council meetings?
>>
>>
>> Further - if there are ones doing it on a regular basis, have they
>> established sufficient policies to enforce reasonable behaviour,
>> particularly by the elected members?
>>
>>
>> The question has come from a colleague following a proposal by a
>> consultant
>> to do so as a mechansim to assist the reporting of meeting minutes!
>>
>>
>> Any interesting examples greatly appreciated!
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Mick
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From:
Andy Lewis
Date:
Sep 15 17:17 UTC
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Hi Keith
I don't believe MOD has been as successful in the local council marketplace
as your company but they do have some very successful installations, yes.
Wishing you well
Andy
2008/9/15 <keith.young@public-i.info>
> Many?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Lewis" <lists@andylewis.net>
> To: <ukie@groups.dowire.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 5:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Recording (Council) meetings
>
>
> > Hi Mick
> >
> > Media On Demand <http://www.mediaondemand.net/> (N.B. to whom I am
> > affiliated) webcasts council meetings for many local councils as well as
> > other public bodies. They have developed an easy to use software and
> > hardware combination specifically for councils. It has proven to be very
> > worthwhile in assisting gathering meeting minutes. This system was
> > developed
> > with the experience gained in webcasting the UK
> > Parliament<http://www.parliament.uk/>for around five years - similar
> > technology, but a scaled down version, now
> > runs webcasts for council meetings.
> >
> > Microphones can be turned off should unusual behaviour occur and the
> > cameras
> > can also be controlled. As far as I am aware, there are not any policies
> > in
> > place for enforcing behaviour in such meetings. I remember one instance
> in
> > Parliament when someone threw water balloons at ministers filled with
> > purple
> > powder, which was webcast and subsequently archived! Not sure if it made
> > it
> > into Hansard though...
> >
> > Please feel free to get in touch with <email obscured> or visit
> > MOD's
> > website <http://www.mediaondemand.net/> for more information on their
> > product range or if you require further info.
> >
> > Best Wishes
> >
> > Andy Lewis
> >
> >
> >
> > 2008/9/15 Mick Phythian <mick@phythian.org.uk>
> >
> >> Is anyone aware of any local authority that is successfully webcasting
> >> council meetings?
> >>
> >>
> >> Further - if there are ones doing it on a regular basis, have they
> >> established sufficient policies to enforce reasonable behaviour,
> >> particularly by the elected members?
> >>
> >>
> >> The question has come from a colleague following a proposal by a
> >> consultant
> >> to do so as a mechansim to assist the reporting of meeting minutes!
> >>
> >>
> >> Any interesting examples greatly appreciated!
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> Mick
> >> -----------------------------------------
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From:
Steven Clift
Date:
Sep 15 17:37 UTC
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What I'd like to see is a serious attempt to get this content on real
television - DTV, cable, or local cable video on demand systems. Internet-only
gives you only a fraction of the potential audience.
Steven Clift
From:
Mick
Date:
Sep 15 18:01 UTC
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Well we have BBC Parliament for central but with the British system
things get out of scale lower down, although with a fraction using
DigiTV (according to my research) for service, I suspect some may do the
meetings that way!
Mick
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Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Recording (Council) meetings
What I'd like to see is a serious attempt to get this content on real
television - DTV, cable, or local cable video on demand systems.
Internet-only gives you only a fraction of the potential audience.
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From:
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Sep 15 18:18 UTC
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Mick is right a lot depends on the cable TV / DigiTV structure in each
country and the UK runs a very different model to the US.
As these converge so the potential to transmit any contextualised AV feed
through different platforms opens out. At the moment the net works for those
councils wishing to take the first step of accessibility (yes for those
whose use the net) and transparency (which is going back to the original
point of enabling councils to accurately record and evidence their
democratic processes in action). For Bristol to evidence 28,000 users is a
remarkable jump from a previous physical attendance. We are having
discussions with the UK's DigiTV project which enables the provision of an
increasing range of Council services through DigiTV albeit this is initially
to run other eParticipate facilities such as ePetitions through DigiTV
rather than video content. It must come though.
I see if I attach a document it does not go through. I can send the Croydon
protocols directly if somebody wishes to see them.
K
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mick Phythian" <mick@phythian.org.uk>
To: <ukie@groups.dowire.org>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Recording (Council) meetings
> Well we have BBC Parliament for central but with the British system
> things get out of scale lower down, although with a fraction using
> DigiTV (according to my research) for service, I suspect some may do the
> meetings that way!
>
> Mick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <email obscured> [mailto:ukie@groups.dowire.org] On Behalf
> Of Steven Clift
> Sent: 15 September 2008 18:31
> To: <email obscured>
> Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Recording (Council) meetings
>
>
> What I'd like to see is a serious attempt to get this content on real
> television - DTV, cable, or local cable video on demand systems.
> Internet-only gives you only a fraction of the potential audience.
>
> Steven Clift
>
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From:
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Date:
Sep 16 07:15 UTC
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We have had an interesting experience with our Council, Richmond upon
Thames, to whom we made the offer of making recordings of council and
committee meetings, either video or just audio. You realise of course that
council meetings are just a side show these days, a circus to permit a bit
of blood letting through spiteful political badinage and of no relevance or
interest (indeed, an annoyance) to your average resident. It is at Cabinet
and O&S meetings that you get an element of debate with ordinary people able
to also participate (for three miinutes, amd at the significant disadvantage
of not being able to ask questions though they can be cross-examined
themselves). So, you might think that the council would welcome the offer
of recordings being made at little or no cost by their community network,
which already has local users aplenty. You would be wrong, however.
Response to the proposal was met with untold delay (weeks between replies)
followed by lame excuses of we're going to do it ourselves (no evidence, no
plan, no action), we don't permit recording in our chambers (true) and
members and officers wouldn't be able to perform their duties and speak
freely (which they don't, it's all a done deal and a set piece). The
official record taken at Richmond's meetings is brief and selective.
Nothing meaningful from the public is accessible to you unless you attend
the event. My shorthand has been the sole channel, when I was able to get
along and had time to do lengthy transcriptions of my trusty Pitman's. This
wasn't welcomed, either, by the Hall of Local Power as it often proved a
great embarrassment because what you get is not only what was said, but how
it was said - far more revealiing of mindsets and intent.
So, what does this refusal by the council tell us? You tell me!
Best wishes
Jill, www.oncom.org.uk volunteer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mick Phythian" <mick@phythian.org.uk>
To: <ukie@groups.dowire.org>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Recording (Council) meetings
Well we have BBC Parliament for central but with the British system
things get out of scale lower down, although with a fraction using
DigiTV (according to my research) for service, I suspect some may do the
meetings that way!
Mick
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Of Steven Clift
Sent: 15 September 2008 18:31
To: <email obscured>
Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Recording (Council) meetings
What I'd like to see is a serious attempt to get this content on real
television - DTV, cable, or local cable video on demand systems.
Internet-only gives you only a fraction of the potential audience.
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Sep 17 17:55 UTC
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The BBC's Digital Democracy project will initially cover parliaments and
devolved assemblies when it launches but long term they want to include local
government in the mix too. I've seen a couple of demos of this and it looks
very good.
Mark Byford, Deputy Director of the Beeb will be keynoting at e-Democracy 08 in
November... so a chance to hear some of their plans and question him on how the
budgets are looking to expand into local government!
Andy
-----Original Message-----
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Steven Clift
Sent: Monday, 15 September 2008 18:31
To: <email obscured>
Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Recording (Council) meetings
What I'd like to see is a serious attempt to get this content on real
television - DTV, cable, or local cable video on demand systems. Internet-only
gives you only a fraction of the potential audience.
Steven Clift
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Tom Steinberg
Date:
Sep 18 09:45 UTC
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Hi All,
Interesting case of mixed messages here. Last thing I heard this
project had basically been indefinitely canned as part of the £36
million overspend incident:
http://www.paidcontent.co.uk/entry/419-draft-bbc-trust-post/
Anyone got any other news?
Tom
2008/9/17 Andy Williamson <andy@andywilliamson.com>:
> The BBC's Digital Democracy project will initially cover parliaments and
devolved assemblies when it launches but long term they want to include local
government in the mix too. I've seen a couple of demos of this and it looks
very good.
>
> Mark Byford, Deputy Director of the Beeb will be keynoting at e-Democracy 08
in November... so a chance to hear some of their plans and question him on how
the budgets are looking to expand into local government!
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <email obscured> [mailto:ukie@groups.dowire.org] On Behalf Of
Steven Clift
> Sent: Monday, 15 September 2008 18:31
> To: <email obscured>
> Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Recording (Council) meetings
>
> What I'd like to see is a serious attempt to get this content on real
television - DTV, cable, or local cable video on demand systems. Internet-only
gives you only a fraction of the potential audience.
>
> Steven Clift
>
>
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Date:
Sep 18 16:37 UTC
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Hi Tom, they had a big stand at the LibDem conference with a very
prominent demo of it, so I'd be surprised if that were the case...
but, you never know!
A
2008/9/18 Tom Steinberg <tom@mysociety.org>:
> Hi All,
>
> Interesting case of mixed messages here. Last thing I heard this
> project had basically been indefinitely canned as part of the £36
> million overspend incident:
>
> http://www.paidcontent.co.uk/entry/419-draft-bbc-trust-post/
>
> Anyone got any other news?
>
> Tom
>
> 2008/9/17 Andy Williamson <andy@andywilliamson.com>:
>> The BBC's Digital Democracy project will initially cover parliaments and
devolved assemblies when it launches but long term they want to include local
government in the mix too. I've seen a couple of demos of this and it looks
very good.
>>
>> Mark Byford, Deputy Director of the Beeb will be keynoting at e-Democracy 08
in November... so a chance to hear some of their plans and question him on how
the budgets are looking to expand into local government!
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: <email obscured> [mailto:ukie@groups.dowire.org] On Behalf Of
Steven Clift
>> Sent: Monday, 15 September 2008 18:31
>> To: <email obscured>
>> Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Recording (Council) meetings
>>
>> What I'd like to see is a serious attempt to get this content on real
television - DTV, cable, or local cable video on demand systems. Internet-only
gives you only a fraction of the potential audience.
>>
>> Steven Clift
>>
>>
>>
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From:
Tom Steinberg
Date:
Sep 30 12:28 UTC
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Hi Andy,
Can you let us know what the demo was of?
thanks,
Tom
2008/9/18 Andy Williamson <andy@andywilliamson.com>:
> Hi Tom, they had a big stand at the LibDem conference with a very
> prominent demo of it, so I'd be surprised if that were the case...
> but, you never know!
> A
>
> 2008/9/18 Tom Steinberg <tom@mysociety.org>:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Interesting case of mixed messages here. Last thing I heard this
>> project had basically been indefinitely canned as part of the £36
>> million overspend incident:
>>
>> http://www.paidcontent.co.uk/entry/419-draft-bbc-trust-post/
>>
>> Anyone got any other news?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> 2008/9/17 Andy Williamson <andy@andywilliamson.com>:
>>> The BBC's Digital Democracy project will initially cover parliaments and
devolved assemblies when it launches but long term they want to include local
government in the mix too. I've seen a couple of demos of this and it looks
very good.
>>>
>>> Mark Byford, Deputy Director of the Beeb will be keynoting at e-Democracy
08 in November... so a chance to hear some of their plans and question him on
how the budgets are looking to expand into local government!
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: <email obscured> [mailto:ukie@groups.dowire.org] On Behalf Of
Steven Clift
>>> Sent: Monday, 15 September 2008 18:31
>>> To: <email obscured>
>>> Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Recording (Council) meetings
>>>
>>> What I'd like to see is a serious attempt to get this content on real
television - DTV, cable, or local cable video on demand systems. Internet-only
gives you only a fraction of the potential audience.
>>>
>>> Steven Clift
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From:
Andy Williamson
Date:
Sep 30 13:31 UTC
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It's a new web-based platform based around live video feeds of both
Houses, of the national assemblies and European Parliament, along with
other relevant links and feeds aggregating into the one site. The plan
is to extend this to local government, apparently 'when budget
permits'
Andy
2008/9/30 Tom Steinberg <tom@mysociety.org>:
> Hi Andy,
>
> Can you let us know what the demo was of?
>
> thanks,
>
> Tom
>
> 2008/9/18 Andy Williamson <andy@andywilliamson.com>:
>> Hi Tom, they had a big stand at the LibDem conference with a very
>> prominent demo of it, so I'd be surprised if that were the case...
>> but, you never know!
>> A
>>
>> 2008/9/18 Tom Steinberg <tom@mysociety.org>:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Interesting case of mixed messages here. Last thing I heard this
>>> project had basically been indefinitely canned as part of the £36
>>> million overspend incident:
>>>
>>> http://www.paidcontent.co.uk/entry/419-draft-bbc-trust-post/
>>>
>>> Anyone got any other news?
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> 2008/9/17 Andy Williamson <andy@andywilliamson.com>:
>>>> The BBC's Digital Democracy project will initially cover parliaments and
devolved assemblies when it launches but long term they want to include local
government in the mix too. I've seen a couple of demos of this and it looks
very good.
>>>>
>>>> Mark Byford, Deputy Director of the Beeb will be keynoting at e-Democracy
08 in November... so a chance to hear some of their plans and question him on
how the budgets are looking to expand into local government!
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: <email obscured> [mailto:ukie@groups.dowire.org] On Behalf Of
Steven Clift
>>>> Sent: Monday, 15 September 2008 18:31
>>>> To: <email obscured>
>>>> Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Recording (Council) meetings
>>>>
>>>> What I'd like to see is a serious attempt to get this content on real
television - DTV, cable, or local cable video on demand systems. Internet-only
gives you only a fraction of the potential audience.
>>>>
>>>> Steven Clift
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>> Group home for UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange:
>>>> http://groups.dowire.org/groups/ukie
>>>>
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posts on this topic here:
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>>>>
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>>>> email <email obscured>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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From:
John Bruce
Date:
Sep 30 15:39 UTC
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Some Councils already webcast some of their meetings - such as Moray Council -
See http://www.moray.ukcouncil.net/site/
John Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: <email obscured> [mailto:ukie@groups.dowire.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Williamson
Sent: 30 September 2008 14:31
To: <email obscured>
Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Recording (Council) meetings
It's a new web-based platform based around live video feeds of both
Houses, of the national assemblies and European Parliament, along with
other relevant links and feeds aggregating into the one site. The plan
is to extend this to local government, apparently 'when budget
permits'
Andy
2008/9/30 Tom Steinberg <tom@mysociety.org>:
> Hi Andy,
>
> Can you let us know what the demo was of?
>
> thanks,
>
> Tom
>
> 2008/9/18 Andy Williamson <andy@andywilliamson.com>:
>> Hi Tom, they had a big stand at the LibDem conference with a very
>> prominent demo of it, so I'd be surprised if that were the case...
>> but, you never know!
>> A
>>
>> 2008/9/18 Tom Steinberg <tom@mysociety.org>:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Interesting case of mixed messages here. Last thing I heard this
>>> project had basically been indefinitely canned as part of the £36
>>> million overspend incident:
>>>
>>> http://www.paidcontent.co.uk/entry/419-draft-bbc-trust-post/
>>>
>>> Anyone got any other news?
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> 2008/9/17 Andy Williamson <andy@andywilliamson.com>:
>>>> The BBC's Digital Democracy project will initially cover parliaments and
devolved assemblies when it launches but long term they want to include local
government in the mix too. I've seen a couple of demos of this and it looks
very good.
>>>>
>>>> Mark Byford, Deputy Director of the Beeb will be keynoting at e-Democracy
08 in November... so a chance to hear some of their plans and question him on
how the budgets are looking to expand into local government!
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: <email obscured> [mailto:ukie@groups.dowire.org] On Behalf Of
Steven Clift
>>>> Sent: Monday, 15 September 2008 18:31
>>>> To: <email obscured>
>>>> Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Recording (Council) meetings
>>>>
>>>> What I'd like to see is a serious attempt to get this content on real
television - DTV, cable, or local cable video on demand systems. Internet-only
gives you only a fraction of the potential audience.
>>>>
>>>> Steven Clift
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>> Group home for UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange:
>>>> http://groups.dowire.org/groups/ukie
>>>>
>>>> Replies go to members of UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange with all
posts on this topic here:
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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