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Is it worth funding ICELE, asks Coleman From: Jill Sanders Date: Apr 03 19:10 UTC Short link
Well, this icele thing has never done anything for us, and we are pretty
active in the field of local democratic participation. It always looked
lame to me!
Jill
www.oncom.org.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Wilcox" <davidwilcox@mac.com> To: <ukie@groups.dowire.org> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Is it worth funding ICELE, asks Coleman Hi Steven - all Discussion warming up: Andy Williamson "From where I am, the reality would appear to be that the very creation of ICELE effectively side-lined local eDemocracy. I whole- heartedly agree with Stephen (C) in that it seems politic to revist the aims and objectives of the organisation and assess progress against these." http://tinyurl.com/2c965t David On 3 Apr 2008, at 11:04, Steven Clift wrote: > > At least in the UK, you are having a discussion about getting value > for the investment, which means that from time to time your > government, the BBC, the EU, etc. are actually investing in e- > democracy. > > I know the sums are small, but I'd be interested in seeing at least > 10% as much money "wasted" on e-democracy as has been dumped into > one-way e-government service projects with minimal use. On that > mark, you'd have the resources to learn many more lessons and make > even more mistakes. > > In terms of research however, I would love to see some real cost- > benefit analysis ... if a country had $100 million pounds to invest > over 5 years to preserve and reform "democracy" in the online era > (broadly conceived not just government to citizen democracy), what > is the best investment. Or more importantly, if a local council or a > local BBC station, had 20K GBP a year to invest in the community > sector and 20K to invest for needs within their democratic services, > what is the most cost-effective service? (My guess on the > institutional side - a regularly produced "what's new" e-mail > newsletter combined with a personalized e-mail/RSS alert system like > Google News Alerts but instead covering local decision-making > meetings/documents/news.) > > Steven Clift > > Member profile for Steven Clift: > http://groups.dowire.org/contacts/stevenclift > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Group home for UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange: > http://groups.dowire.org/groups/ukie > > Replies go to members of UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange with > all posts on this topic here: > http://groups.dowire.org/r/topic/2Us5bhRdDhsgQoIoFgczci > > For digest version or to leave UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange, > email <email obscured> > with "digest on" or "unsubscribe" in the *subject*. > > UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange is hosted by Democracies Online > - http://dowire.org. Member profile for David Wilcox: http://groups.dowire.org/contacts/wilcoxdavid ----------------------------------------- Group home for UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange: http://groups.dowire.org/groups/ukie Replies go to members of UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange with all posts on this topic here: http://groups.dowire.org/r/topic/23taemZUO0r4c4eBQYFcV1 For digest version or to leave UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange, email <email obscured> with "digest on" or "unsubscribe" in the *subject*. UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange is hosted by Democracies Online - http://dowire.org.
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