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Social media & local gov event 29th October From: paul canning Date: Sep 04 20:18 UTC Short link
Kindof relevant, a story in the Daily Mail promoted me to post How not to do video about recycling<http://paulcanning.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-not-to-do-video-about-recycling.html>which covers tips on making video go viral. Newham council seems to be doing something right - I will attempt to find out what. Paul 2008/9/4 Mick Phythian <mick@phythian.org.uk>
> Dave and Paul, I quite agree and don't think we haven't tried! I still > believe part of the issue was covered by that recent Demos report on > trust which I lectured the LG CIO Council on! We have a slow upward > journey to regain it... > > But again, as I was asking, Front Office (Web 2.0 etc) versus the back > office (Service Oriented Architecture)? Why doesn't government just make > the data available for the masher-uppers? > > Mick > -----Original Message----- > From: <email obscured> [mailto:ukie@groups.dowire.org] On Behalf > Of Dave Briggs > Sent: 04 September 2008 13:01 > To: <email obscured> > Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] Social media & local gov event 29th October > > > 2008/9/2 Mick Phythian <mick@phythian.org.uk> > > >> As to getting the citizens writing - nice idea but I await people > >> truly getting involved online, apart from a very small minority, > >> normally with a grudge! We established forums on our council web site > > >> which haven't been used either by staff or the public, we have tried > >> online budgetary involvement with statistically insignificant > >> feedback. > > I think the problem in the past has been the attitude of 'if we build it > they will come', which usually is the death knell for any social web > offering. This is especially true of forums, which I don't think are the > best way for online engagement to be run effectively. They are good for > support scenarious, and maybe to have an online presence of an already > existing offline community, but otherwise take up far too much time to > get going. > > There are several important messages, I feel, for any level of > government wanting to get involved in the social web space: > > 1) dont expect people to turn up. As Paul C has written, publicise, > publicise, publicise > 2) make it an imperitive (sp?) for officials to respond where > appropriate. It will die if nobody gets any replies. > 3) Make it an as-well-as not an instead-of - new media doesn't kill old > media > 4) Accept criticism and messiness - stuff will happen you don't like. > But by engaging and being involved you've got a better chance of turning > it round than if you ignore it > 5) choose the right tool for the job. Sometimes it will be a forum, > sometimes a blog, sometimes some other third thing. Make the barriers to > entry as low as possible. Don't try and force every project or exercise > into the same platform > > More discussion around this stuff will of course be taking place in > Peterborough in October. Make sure you book your place!! > > Cheers > > -- > Dave Briggs > <email obscured> | http://davepress.net | 07525 209589 (Mobile) > > ----------------------------------------- > Group home for UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange: > http://groups.dowire.org/groups/ukie > > Replies go to members of UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange with all > posts on this topic here: > http://groups.dowire.org/r/topic/5QYzrg4vwL4W9rN8ZMqnOt > > For digest version or to leave UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange, > email <email obscured> > with "digest on" or "unsubscribe" in the *subject*. > > UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange is hosted by Democracies Online - > http://dowire.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by > AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.16/1651 - Release Date: > 04/09/2008 06:57 > > > > ----------------------------------------- > Group home for UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange: > http://groups.dowire.org/groups/ukie > > Replies go to members of UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange with all posts > on this topic here: > http://groups.dowire.org/r/topic/7LrLP4TnwAMXpBTVfkdbAh > > For digest version or to leave UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange, > email <email obscured> > with "digest on" or "unsubscribe" in the *subject*. > > UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange is hosted by Democracies Online - > http://dowire.org. > -- www.paulcanning.me.uk web stuff and other ramblings ~~~~~~~~~~~
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