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I am a citizen not a consumer From: Mick Date: Jul 28 19:54 UTC Short link
Interestingly, latest New Statesman - http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2008/07/ginsborg-book-democracy- marx
Mick -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> [mailto:consult@groups.dowire.org] On Behalf Of Pete Thomson Sent: 28 July 2008 09:54 To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [Consult] I am a citizen not a consumer I don't think it would work, because it misses the fundamental purpose of government - to decide on issues when there is no consensus. If instead of the friendly example about changes in the local park, you think about extending an airport, or introducing congestion charging, it's more obvious that a broad consensus may never happen. So a system that requires a broad consensus before taking any action is a recipe for inertia, a licence to filibuster. Because governments have to take some decisions that some people disagree with, they need to aggregate assent over multiple decisions to maintain legitimacy. They'll obviously want to include some decisions that would command broad consensus, to gain some degree of assent from everyone, so they won't want to let go even of those decisions that could be handled by a consensus mechanism. My view would be falsified if it were demonstrated that by some means (irrespective of technology) mass consensus can actually be achieved, even on issues that initially appear deeply divisive, within a useful timescale. I'm not aware of any such evidence. NB this does have to be mass consensus, not just consensus within a small select group like a citizens' jury. ----------------------------------------- Group home for Online Consultations, Dialogues, and E-Participation: http://groups.dowire.org/groups/consult Replies go to members of Online Consultations, Dialogues, and E-Participation with all posts on this topic here: http://groups.dowire.org/r/topic/3nng3vPAmjUaNV9RDhvF5R For digest version or to leave Online Consultations, Dialogues, and E-Participation, email <email obscured> with "digest on" or "unsubscribe" in the *subject*. Online Consultations, Dialogues, and E-Participation is hosted by Democracies Online - http://dowire.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1577 - Release Date: 28/07/2008 06:55
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