London Parks e-Participation & e-Voting & e-Budgeting
From:
Mary Reid
Date:
Nov 25 17:03 UTC
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One of the parks is in my ward and I'd love it to win (King Edward's in SW
London, in case you're asking). But it is thoroughly humiliating to have to
subject it to a reality show vote-in.
The very sketchy information provided about each park gives no indication
about why it should be chosen. In our case, we will no doubt be branded with
the 'leafy Kingston' label, as we have no chance to explain the demographics
and history of this very ordinary area.
This is certainly not what I understand by participatory budgeting, which at
the very least should include some deliberation.
On the other hand, I'd better go off and encourage the readers of my blog to
vote...
Mary
-----Original Message-----
From: <email obscured> [mailto:ukie@groups.dowire.org] On Behalf Of
Tom Steinberg
Sent: 25 November 2008 11:12
To: <email obscured>
Subject: Re: [UKIE-EDem] London Parks e-Participation & e-Voting &
e-Budgeting
Oh my God - are they really serious?
Everyone knows internet votes like this are trivial to rig. Are they
seriously proposing to allow up to half a million to be spent like
this? Anyone in my team could knock up a script to vote with plausible
looking data thousands of times, in about 30 minutes.
Tom
2008/11/25 James Gilmour <jgilmour@globalnet.co.uk>:
> Mayor Boris Johnson calls on Londoners to vote to 'Help a London Park'
Greater London Authority (press release) - London,England,UK
> Londoners can vote to choose which parks get the £400000 simply by logging
on to www.london.gov.uk/parksvote , by text message or by
> postal vote. ...
>
> This MAY encourage participation but it uses an unsophisticated voting
system that might well fail to reflect the voters' real
> wishes and it takes a very unsophisticated approach to budgeting. Given
some of the budgeting tools that are now in the public
> domain, a much more dynamic approach could have been taken to asking
participants for their views on the allocation of all the money
> available. But maybe this is a small acorn .......
>
> James
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