Public information review
From:
Sophia Collins
Date:
2007 Apr 11 12:08 UTC
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I'd add http://thorntree.lonelyplanet.com/ - I'd never go anywhere
without checking it. Foreign office staff should definitely be empowered
to post there when necessary. My blog post mentioning this was at
http://www.gallomanor.com/2007/03/mumpower.html but it adds little to
what I've already told you. I get the impression posting on forums is
regarded with deep suspicion by older/more senior civil servants and the
younger ones who get it aren't in a position to challenge that idea.
This creates a very artificial barrier between citizens and government.
It must also create a strange disjunct for the staff concerned - who
would use sites in a personal capacity, but have to pretend they can't
see them at work.
Does there need to be a government list of sites to post to, or does
there just need to be a general guidance on staff posting? Your review
can't identify every potentially relevant information sharing forum, but
workers in a given field will come across them in the course of their
work. This involves delegating decision-making (and communication!)
authority. The Cabinet Office will be delighted I'm sure.
There are various other information sharing sites/forums that I use a
lot, but that I can't see the government having much of a role in (for
example http://www.beerintheevening.com/). Although, that said, why
shouldn't Environmental Health Officers post significant findings to pub
and restaurant review sites?
The possibilities multiply endlessly. It's hard to think of many
examples where it would *never* be appropriate. There would come a
credibility issue however in some areas, for example unsolicited
government drugs education posted on clubbing sites. The police would be
even less welcome. The test is perhaps 'will users find this information
useful and welcome?' and not, 'what do WE want them to know (or think)?'
This is not perhaps a perspective natural to the government.
I certainly think it makes a lot more sense for civil servants to post
info to relevant 'naturally occuring' forums, rather than Inland Revenue
or someone having their own forum. Because let's face it, it would
probably be a bit rubbish. I assume you've looked at Talk Swindon
(http://www.talkswindon.org/) which is an independently run site, but
includes discussion of and contributions from the lovely Swindon Borough
Council.
And finally, don't forget to consider email lists. I belong to several
and find them a significant way to keep track of what's happening in
various fields. Although it is a slightly different ethos and many (like
this one) do have public employees posting to them.
I hope these thoughts are in any way helpful. I meant blog comment (i.e.
on Premise), rather than post, but feel this has gone on too long for
that now.
Best wishes,
Sophia
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Henderson EP wrote:
> I'm starting to get this now...thanks for the cabinet office link.
>
> Here are my favourite citizen<>citizen information sharing sites:-
>
> www.moneysavingexpert.co.uk (forums)
> www.tripadvisor.com
> www.holidaysuncovered.co.uk
> www.honestjohn.co.uk
> www.which.net (forums)
> http://reviews.cnet.com
> www.hotukdeals.co.uk
>
> I think there's a lot of opportunity for government to interject ;
particularly if you take a look at the likes of moneysavingexpert.co.uk where
people are talking about tax credits, green consumerism, public transport etc.
Often you get shop 'insiders' post in an official capacity but I can't help
thinking it would be better outside the thread in a seperate devoted category.
>
> A common theme is the high visibiity nature of the website hosts. Just as
we have champions in government, perhaps successful citizen sites need their
own champions - but portrayed in a similar way to celebrity.
>
> Any other sites?
>
> Tom Steinberg <<email obscured>> wrote:
> On 4/10/07, Sophia Collins wrote:
>> I'm still not entirely clear on the scope of this review and what you're
>> interested in.
>
> There was actually a press release today:
> http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/newsroom/news_releases/2007/070405_power.asp
>
>> The Guardian article refers to, "permitting civil
>> servants to post information on sites" in the first paragraph. I assume
>> this means government going to where people are talking and joining in
>> that conversation, instead of government setting out it's stall and
>> expecting people to visit?
>
> This is definitely one angle I want to look at. Your story is
> excellent as well. Do you have a specific permalink to the original?
>
>> This example stuck in my mind, but there's obviously lots more. Is that
>> the kind of interaction you're considering? Or are we talking about
>> repackaging of data?
>
> That's part of it too. What formats & licences data is released under
> is definitely in the remit.
>
>> Or government funding grassroots forums? Or all of
>> the above? The Guardian article seems to be pretty vague.
>
> Indeed, all the above.
>
> As for whether you should reply on a blog post, the choice is yours.
> If you do, rememeber to post the link here.
>
> best,
>
> Tom
>
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